There isn't a tremendous amount of order to the following posts.  To be honest, there is so much raw data that I really didn't know what to choose.  I will do my best to stick mostly to EF's posts about BloodSworn.  Posting too much from another guild's site that they 'hacked' seems overly invasive to those guilds.  I am posting one or two simply to substantiate my claims.

Shall we begin?

Allow me to start by addressing DeathlyMorg's lie about seeking Freya strat info assistance from a guild that is 'months behind'. It is pathetic, really.  Can't they just google for info like I did?  Unless you are there on the first day of the instance - there are a multitude of tips, reports, and videos for a boss.  Even on the first day of Ulduar, we still had information to go of off from the PTR posts (some of it incorrect).  It isn't difficult to search the free and open information on the web and compile your own collection of useful information.  




A link to where it exists on our site http://ravenbrow.com/simple/index.php?topic=1422.0

Raven posts August 13, Corrosive posts August 17, EF downs Freya the eve of August 17.

I know, I know, Morg - you didn't read Corrosive's posts right?  You didn't find anything useful if you did?  Please tell me more.  My all-time favorite one is "I can't update because I am capped."  


"One thing that I notice with all the top guild forums that I've hacked....
"....compared to guilds like DnT/Adept/Disposed......"

"The leadership of this guild does a good job at research/strats/planning..."  Really?  Is hacking into other guild's private sites and copy and pasting THEIR information a 'good job'?

Regarding Corrosive's signature -





The info about the new instance was kind of confusing, so I wrote my own little synopsis.  Guess EF was confused too.
Link to our site location:  http://ravenbrow.com/simple/index.php?topic=1396.0

"When I findout what they're planning on I'll post here."
And you have the audacity to get on the WoW forums and accuse us of being obsessed? It is a video game, ffs. Can't you just play your game and we play ours?


Copying and pasting the info for ToC boss normal mode.  Cause these bosses are hard?
Link to our site http://ravenbrow.com/simple/index.php?topic=1399.0



Lots of this stuff is stolen from Disposed.  They are now disbanded, but they were a functioning guild back when Corrosive copied and pasted their tips.


I love this part, "Ninja'd from BS, more so you guys know what they're doing rather than getting anything strat wise from them (doubt there's anything we don't already know)" Lol.  And then he posts the whole healing info.  Haha.  No, of course, you don't need help Corro.  That must be the reason you keep pasting things from us.
Link to our site location: http://ravenbrow.com/simple/index.php?topic=1332.0


I am not even go to bother making fun of it.  But you guys are laughing right?

http://ravenbrow.com/baloney/ourprogression.png
More obsession from Corro on our progress and plans.  For the record, EF went to kill Firefighter 10 on June 25th, one day after Corrosive made his post.  BloodSworn downed it as planned on the 26th.


Sigh, Corro can't even report correctly.  Just because we went to YOGG on 1 Tuesday, doesn't mean we switched to raiding 5 nights a week.  Even if we did, so what?  As it stand now you typically raid 6 hours more than we do/can.  If we can squeeze in extra days for an attempt we deem worthwhile or if we are having so much fun or feel we are so close to something and we want to stay longer and play the game, SO WHAT?


Um, A) It is patch day, we went to Emalon first while people fixed their addons.  B) We are still in the instance because after downing the boss in 4 attempts (yes, 1 more than the incredible Endless Fury), we decided to run multiple 10mans.  C) Why the hell are you watching where we are playing?


You know, some of BloodSworn wondered what the hell Xeii was talking about when he posted about on the WoW forums about how we cheated/haxxed Thorim.  Now I get it, Xeii gets his information from an idiot.  Which makes one wonder who is the bigger idiot? Corrosive can't read WWS reports and he cant read and doesn't understand boss mechanics.

1) There are two widely recognized spots where 1-2 people can stand and not have to worry about the lighting charge from the walls. Check the map on our website or this much prettier one at http://www.wowwiki.com/File:Thorimposition.jpg .  Corro - the whole raid can't stand in these areas because of the Chain Lightning which increases in damage with each jump essentially one shotting the 3rd jump target. Again, please see for information.  So obviously, we didn't "abuse the no lightning charge damage".
2) We didn't take 8 healers. How stupid do you have to be to fail to realize that ALL priests are not healers?  Hey, you have one of the top shadowpriests around, a Mr. Resist.  Do you see him on your WWS stats and get confused as to his heals?  Here is another tip, even Disc priests outfitted in pvp and frost resist gear MIGHT NOT BE HEALING.  Maybe, just maybe those priests might be standing in Frost Zones mcing mobs to grab the 'Aura of Celerity' buff.  There is an achievement for it, you know.  
3) We didn't zerg the boss. But we did dps the hell out of him.  6 of our players came in as the highest ever recorded for their class for wowmeters online.  Multiple mc's will do that for you.  Viva la haste.



Anyways, you get the idea.  I've spent time thinking about these guys and why they do the things they do.  I tend to believe what one of the other GM's told me.  I side with him in thinking that Corrosive didn't actually 'hack' the websites of these guilds rather he gained access thru the use of foolish guild members.  Corro must be some manipulator to play these members and I doubt they would be so helpful if they were aware of Corro's thoughts about them. However, Corro spends alot of time in his posts bragging about his ability to steal and his 'leet hacking skills'.  So if he isn't actually hacking but instead just entering under a guildie's user and password then why constantly tout his accomplishments to his own raid leaders and officers?  Low self esteem?









I hope you found this little post informative if not entertaining. BloodSworn has moved to a newsite at www.bloodsworn.org/forums where we fully expect Corrosive and the Endless Fury boys to follow.  Corrosive made some boasts about shutting down our sites or screwing them up. Time will tell.  This is the internet and none of us at BloodSworn are shaking in our boots.

As for me, I have my helpful ignore addons already loaded with plenty of space for the whispering level 1s. 

[09/02/2009]
19:16 [Deathlymorg]: nah not gonna tell ya, need u to gear up my raid first
19:16 [Ravenmeow]: pardon?
19:17 [Deathlymorg]: you asked to know whos leaving so they dont get loot, but i like u gearing up people for me
19:20 [Ravenmeow]: How about if we just keep writing strats and helpful tips for you to take off our website. If you boys needed help, you could have just asked for  a membership.
19:21 [Deathlymorg]: Nah, i prefer my own strats considering you are months behind
19:21 [Deathlymorg]: must be hard now scruff cant steal them for you
19:21 [Ravenmeow]: lol
19:21 [Ravenmeow]: before you down freya - you take and post my tips?
19:21 [Deathlymorg]: lol your tips
19:21 [Deathlymorg]: baby we got freya before u started on it
19:22 [Ravenmeow]: Not that the information wasnt readily availabe.  Just you guys are too lazy to look it up, you need to copy and paste from other guild's sites.
19:23 [Deathlymorg]: haha u really think we steal shit from your forums, you guys, who are way behind us
19:23 [Deathlymorg]: are you retarded ?
19:23 [Ravenmeow]: I think most of the guilds would be happy to help you.  We all understand your shortcomings - just ask us.
19:23 [Deathlymorg]: but
19:23 [Deathlymorg]: ill give you the number 1 secret strat
19:23 [Deathlymorg]: 'loot sigils'
19:23 [Deathlymorg]: helps
19:24 [Ravenmeow]: Its not just strats - its even simple description of upcoming instances.  Thats what makes you so pathetic.19:24 [Ravenmeow]: Yea, disconnects are a bitch for sigils.
19:24 [Deathlymorg]: orly not that we could copy paste something from mmo champ and u could copy something from mmo champ
19:24 [Deathlymorg]: lololol missy you need to think before u talk
19:25 [Ravenmeow]: but you dont get it from mmo-champion, you get it word for word directly from BloodSworn.  That is why you are sad.
19:25 [Deathlymorg]: haha the fact you honestly believe that doesnt say much hunny
19:25 [Ravenmeow]: I never admired those guys that could copy the test paper of the girl sitting next to them.
19:26 [Deathlymorg]: LOL

Leaders at Endless Fury and Corrosive/Greyice in particular, have long enjoyed checking out the BloodSworn website.  This is no surprise to anyone who even bothers to check out our wordpress blog sites.  EF used to have a splash page, but back in March of 2009, Corrosive decided to update the EF site with a shiny new look.  Where else to come shopping for the look besides a lower ranked guild on the same server?




Of course, Odinneke makes an awesome theme.  It was quite popular back in 2007 when we started using it, a bit more difficult to find now.  Gogo - google it!  It will take a bit of time to find the theme, but you too can swap your guild's header so that your website can look like ours did.  BloodSworn left the copyright info from Odinneke in place at the bottom of the theme.  Odinneke provided this theme, with different colors, to WoWlovers for free.




What most of us at BloodSworn didn't realize...was that the leaders of Endless Fury found it enjoyable/necessary/helpful to actually access our private forum and copy and paste even the most mundane of our posts.

When I learned of this situation, it was quite a surprise.  I mean, Endless Fury, is full of alot of skilled gamers.  Exclude their leaders and you have basically a good gaming guild of committed and talented raiders.  Their personal play style might not mesh with mine, but I've played with some of them and observed them in trade or on wow forums and I think there are some sharp folks playing at EF. Certainly sharp enough to figure out the bosses without 'stealing/ninjaing/hacking/borrowing' from other guild's private websites.

There is a ton of information about WoW bosses on the internet.  From the kindly guilds like Fusion that open up their websites for everyone to Tankspot, Youtube, EJ, there is an endless supply of information perfect to sift thru and glean knowledge from.  We all have friends that play in other guilds or on other servers, most of us chat with these pals about strats and tips for bosses.  Why that isn't enough for the leaders of Endless Fury is beyond me.

After learning about Corrosive's self proclaimed 'hack' to our website, I did the following things:

1) I personally spoke to the long term raiders of BloodSworn, showed them a few links, and discussed exactly how to proceed.
2) I went to the leaders of the other guilds that Corrosive boasts about hacking and alerted them to the security breach.  Sure, it is just a gaming forum but what if personal information is kept on that site?  Also if the webmasters of these guilds wanted to openly share with Corrosive and Endless Fury then they could easily issue poor, curious Corro a user name and password.
3) I started on a new website.  Sometimes change is good.  In the last two years I ran out of steam in creating something interesting for our guild, particularly as the demands of RL added up. Thanks to this incident, we have something pretty and abit more fun and interactive.  Live chat! Streaming Blue Updates! Well, it is about exciting as I can make it.
4) I did nothing on the WoW forums.  Why not?  Well, it has been our policy NOT to post on the forums.  My last attempt at assisting in a temporary progression thread that primarily updated the Alliance kills while Morg was 2 weeks AFK resulted in a flurry of namecalling posts from EF members and their wee trolls. Don't remember? Let me remind you -






So, I kept my mouth shut and let it roll off my back like water off a duck.



Afterall, these are the same little boys who have called me names, assailed my sexuality, ridiculed me and the guys/gals I play with for over a year.  They never let up and they never run out of lies to tell or insults to sling.  They are cyber bullies.  When the blow up doll got a leak, they just found a new way to get their rocks off.  I found I can avoid the trouble they try and create if I just stay away from the WoW forums.





Or,
at least,
I used to be able to.

The other day I was having a friendly chat with our raiders about the defection of 2 of our members to Endless Fury.  (Like all guilds, we had a  couple of guys go out in search of greener pastures. No Tauren joke intended.)  I advised my guild that most if not all of the members of BloodSworn are capable of walking into EF and getting a spot to play.  Since WoTLK, 5 members from BloodSworn have moved to EF.  Each was given an immediate raiding spot.  Interesting when you think about how the boys at EF constantly say that BloodSworn is full of fails/bads/shit players.

I asked that if any other raider was planning on making a move to EF, they kindly step out of the raid as we have more than 25 people online that would like to play and raid.  No point in sitting a keen player for one that wishes to leave tomorrow.  I received this whisper from Deathlymorg, MT and RL of Endless Fury.



This 'hunny' thought about things.  This 'retarded' one evaluated the situation.  This 'little missy' considered her options and this is what I came up with.



or to be more clear




  

Action 52

    

The Worst Game Ever Made: Action 52 Part2 ANGER RISING ??

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